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07 June 2007 @ 01:35 pm
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I mourn the murder of Kelsey. A young life of promise destroyed. A family shattered. But I wonder, would I feel this way if she was old, ugly or a man? Possibly not. Maybe it is the destruction of beauty that spurs good to take place.
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(Anonymous) on June 7th, 2007 07:32 pm (UTC)
Oh, please. You're essentially saying that the only life that is valuable is that of young, beautiful women. That's really horrible and prejudiced. Every life has promise. Even the lives of ugly people. And old people. And men.

Families are shattered every hour of every day because of death. Simply because this was a young woman doesn't make it any more important.
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Rayana Sandyrayana on June 7th, 2007 09:23 pm (UTC)
i totally freaking agree.


Lauriannchillywilly on June 7th, 2007 09:40 pm (UTC)
I'm not disagreeing that this happens - however, I wonder if there isn't a relationship to the idea that this happens more to pretty young women.
So if the young women are the most frequently abducted/murderdered, etc, that there would naturally be more coverage on these type of women?

Again, I don't know the stats on that, so I'm just theorizing that it could be a proponent of the proportion of coverage.
teross50teross50 on June 8th, 2007 04:34 pm (UTC)
The pretty ones are the news makers. When young, very vanilla, victims get hurt, it places like JOCo, it shatters our misguided security of,”You mean that shit happens outside the ghetto!!?’
People want to believe theY are safe, as long as they are;
• The right color
• in the right neighborhood
• faithful to the right God

The ugly truth is Humanity perpetrates evil on its self. Simply there are those of us who choose to be evil. Those persons come in all shades, all sizes, all areas of the world, and have all manor of small and large bank account.
Even after this incident, some will rationalize, it was one bad man, who came one time to this good neighbor hood, and did something bad. It happens all the time in JoCo, it is just less acknowledge, for something as material/trivial as property values. 8-(
rhysanderhysande on June 7th, 2007 11:17 pm (UTC)
In this particular case, I'm sure part of the publicity was due to the tape of the struggle in the parking lot. I doubt many news programs would pass up the opportunity to run something that sensational.

Other than that, I'm in total agreement.
fatsofatso on June 8th, 2007 12:27 am (UTC)
pretty much.
flairness on June 7th, 2007 08:02 pm (UTC)
did I miss something?
flairness on June 7th, 2007 08:34 pm (UTC)
Oh. Thanks. DC news isn't covering that story.
Missytequilalemonade on June 7th, 2007 09:31 pm (UTC)
That guy looks like someone from the Heaven's Gate cult.
Steveshmigs on June 8th, 2007 12:01 am (UTC)
Yea, that is a creepy picture.
Pyrrhus, The Pessimistic Buddahpyrrhus on June 7th, 2007 08:17 pm (UTC)
I assume you actually knew her right?
Rayana Sandyrayana on June 7th, 2007 09:24 pm (UTC)
i agree with you.


yes, it was horrible...

but when do black/hispanic people get that kind of attention?


Missytequilalemonade on June 7th, 2007 10:35 pm (UTC)
I was just thinking...living in Texas, there was a lot of media coverage when children of the hispanic community went missing..but it also depended on the circumstances surrounding the case...
In Kelsey's case, they had tons of video footage, watched the abduction and such.. in other cases, they don't have that, they don't have pictures of the perpetrator usually like that..sketches of people can only do so much..

I think that because they showed the video of the abduction on the news, it really affected people. They saw the struggle.

Have you head about the David Cornbleet case?
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=135155400

Rayana Sandyrayana on June 7th, 2007 10:40 pm (UTC)
oh yea, i forgot about the video... that was eerie :(


my bf and i got in an arguement about this exact topic last night. i was like "news channels give people what they want to see"


Missytequilalemonade on June 7th, 2007 10:42 pm (UTC)
The Cornbleet case seriously disturbed me.
A lady rode in the elevator with the killer, he was covered in blood. She reported him to the security of the office building in Chicago...they have home depot footage of the same guy...shows people walking all around him, and yet...almost a year later, and nothing.
His son does an amazing job of keeping the media informed about the case...He posts a lot of information about upcoming appearances on tv about the case on the myspace page
Missytequilalemonade on June 7th, 2007 10:53 pm (UTC)
also, i was discussing with dr. drew on myspace the specifics of the case...
He was a dermatologist, it is possible that the killer was a patient who was being treated with accutane. But studies only mention suicide and depression, not psychosis or anything like that...it's possible that the killer could have been angry about his condition, blaming it on the Dr. and sought revenge. The only thing I can't piece together is the tube they see him carrying out... nobody knows what it is but they said it didn't appear that anything was stolen from the office. I'm not sure of the details of the cause of death or anything like that.

Sheesh I feel like a CSI or some crap
Charlievandalin on June 8th, 2007 01:34 am (UTC)
When they're the perpetrators. Whitey McMedia needs his stereotypes.
Missytequilalemonade on June 7th, 2007 09:30 pm (UTC)
Personally, I get wrapped up in these cases all the time, regardless of the appearance of the person, but I did notice that they briefly mentioned the Kara Kopetsky case http://www.findkarakopetsky.com/ because they didn't want to say whether it was Kara or Kelsey, but I didn't hear anything about this before yesterday. Provided I don't watch tv so I'm not inundated with the news via tv, but I check CNN, msnbc, and various KC newschannel websites multiple times a day but I hadn't seen anything about her..

People say stuff like this whenever a pretty girl from an upper middle class area are murdered. I am so surprised about the media coverage of the case, I wish every case got that kind of coverage.
Did anyone celebrate the discovery of a girl who had been missing for a year? It was kind of brushed under the rug because of Kelsey..
grannie bea arthurlindsaylasvegas on June 7th, 2007 10:10 pm (UTC)
I'm wondering if you knew her as well. I did. Not well, but she went to my high school and was the little sister of a friend of mine. I've been to her house, seen her when she was younger. We were in band together. It just hits close to home, and I wonder why everyone who doesn't know her is so upset. You watch the news and this kind of thing happens all the time, doesn't it? Why don't people care then? I'm usually pretty disaffected by this stuff, but this time I knew her. It's opened my eyes and now I feel bad about the girl in Belton..I see someone wrote about her. Kara Kopetsky. I hope they find her, and hopefully something terrible hasn't happened to her like it happened to Kelsey.

Sorry if that didn't make much sense.
Missytequilalemonade on June 7th, 2007 10:27 pm (UTC)
check the web, you can't find hardly any articles about Kara, but a crapton about Kelsey...
It's like the episode of Veronica Mars where she jacked up the reward money for purebred dogs and they showed up...
msi_junkie17: ljdownmsi_junkie17 on June 8th, 2007 12:40 am (UTC)
I'm guessing one of the main reasons the media/police/FBI was all over Kelsey's case is because her father is a P.O. Kara's family got the crap end of that deal. =\

I hadn't even heard about the Kara story until this Kelsey stuff all came up.
Missytequilalemonade on June 8th, 2007 12:41 am (UTC)
yeah, i just found out her dad was a police officer..
sadly, it's about connections in a murder case...wtf?
grannie bea arthurlindsaylasvegas on June 8th, 2007 01:56 am (UTC)
I'm glad everyone did so much for Kelsey, especially since I knew her, but I just can't believe how much Kara is getting pushed to the side. The JoCo police say they're going to help as much as they can with the investigation now. I guess there's some debate that she ran away instead of being kidnapped, but still. I hope they push full force on this now.
Missytequilalemonade on June 8th, 2007 04:12 am (UTC)
If it was in fact a crime, the first 48 hours are crucial to solving any case..
it stinks that Kelsey had to die to get people to look for Kara...
grannie bea arthurlindsaylasvegas on June 8th, 2007 05:06 pm (UTC)
I completely agree.
Goddess of Potholes and Puddles: You are heresmeddley on June 8th, 2007 06:25 pm (UTC)
I decided to look and see who else hade been killed in the last week. I picked KMBC's web site, and found - among the dozens of news stories about Kelsey - two instances of people dying, along with a few shootings and robberies. The only two other murders I found were summed up like this:

No Arrests Yet In Slaying At 86th, Drury
KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Police are still searching for the person responsible for fatally shooting a man on his front porch Friday night. Officers said they found Andre Taylor, 24, suffering from a gunshot wound at 86th Street and Drury Avenue about 8 p.m. Taylor died before he could be taken to a hospital. Anyone with information on the shooter is asked to call the TIPS Hotline at 816-474-TIPS.

Cass County Sheriff Investigates Fatal Shooting
GARDEN CITY, Mo. -- Officials said they are investigating a fatal shooting Thursday night in Cass County. Sheriff's deputies found Leslie A. Dunkle, 44, was shot at Eighth and Ash streets in Garden City at about 7:30 p.m.
Deputies said one other person was injured. No other details were released.


There are, I think, a lot of reasons cases like this and the Ali Kemp case get so much attention. Part of it is that it's more uncommon for a murder in JoCo - that's just a statistical fact. Part of it is the activism of the family and friends - the squeaky wheel gets the grease. And part of it is the community reaction - people are more than willing to turn in their neighbor if they think (s)he might be a killler.
tropiclandstropiclands on June 10th, 2007 09:26 am (UTC)
Sadly, I don't think you would. The media has us trained to believe that the losses of young people are tragic and that this only happens to females . . .
beforefiction on June 10th, 2007 11:18 pm (UTC)
I realize that part of the media of coverage is because she is white, young, and obviously female.
But, I think a major part of the coverage is also the location. Oak Park Mall? Who knew? I don't even remember the last murder in Johnson County. We are all sort of lulled into a sense of security by the fact that we have money and live in the suburbs. It's weird. I don't know.